Posted by: jugglinbob | June 6, 2011

Finally! A clear argument proving the existence of the Christian God.

It’s been a long time coming, but we finally have a clear, understandable argument for the existence of the Christian God!  Blogginbaldguy commented:

Here it is:

The Christian God (triune) is metaphysically necessary in order for unity and diversity to have a meaningful expression in the first cause. A strict monad would have ultimate unity but no natural expression of diversity and hence would *need* the diversity of contingent beings; in other words this being could not metaphysically have aseity at least as it is correlative to diversification.

Pantheism posits no distinction between unity and diversity; hence diversity is illusory though empirical experience militates against such a view. If diversity is illusory the antitheistic thoughts of a quasi-divine being must be considered identical with the positive conceptions of the theist.

Polytheism faces the opposite dilemma. Ultimate diversity negates unity and finds no expression for unity of thought. Therefore the Christian God is the only God that could possibly exist due to the rational-irrational tension of the other conceptions. Coincidentally, naturalism suffers a similar fate.

Now, I am partial to significantly substantial verbal articulations to an equal or greater extent as the subsequently minimally distant (from my reference plane) masculine hominid, but you Sir, are taking the Michael…

I like big words as much as the next man.

See how much easier that was to read, understand, or indeed think about?

I realise I’m opening myself up for looking like I don’t understand words of more than two syllables, but I do believe in clear, concise language.  The fancy words have their place, but the argument above seems to be deliberately hiding behind these words, and then, when decoded, are nonsensical anyway!

For example, Triune. As I’m sure you all know, this means “Three in One” (like the oil…),  the common word Trinity would have done as well, or indeed better as it is the one used to describe the triple christian deity by most people.

But lets look at the argument: (in English!)

“The Christian God (triune) is metaphysically necessary in order for unity and diversity to have a meaningful expression in the first cause.”

The Christian God is required for oneness and difference to be meaningful if it is to be used as a creator of the universe.

I have no need of oneness or difference for the universe to exist! To then argue that a God without many confusing parts makes no sense because it has no confusing parts is therefore not required.

I was going to go on with the rest, but my need for diversity leads me elsewhere…

Why not try it yourself?

Can you translate this into English?  I look forward to discussing this with you if you can…



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  2. I’m now examining the scripture for “evidence” of the triple nature of the Christian God… and I’m coming up short. It’s kinda a biggy, so anyone got any biblical references?

  3. You mean Big Daddy, Junior and the spook? Nope, I don’t read fiction.

  4. but you might try this:
    References to Father, Son, and Holy Spirit

    A few verses directly reference the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit at the same time:

    “As soon as Jesus Christ was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and landing on him. And a voice from heaven said, ‘This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.'”[Mt 3:16–17] [Mk 1:10–11] [Luke 3:22] [John 1:32]
    “The angel answered and said to her, ‘The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God.'”[Luke 1:35]
    “How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!”[Heb 9:14]
    “But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.” [Acts 7:55]
    This passage contains many complex formulations of the relationship between God, Christ, and Spirit, including “the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead,”[Rom 8:11] “all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God,”[8:14-17] and “the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.”[8:26-27]

    Some even reference these as part of a single formula:

    “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”[Mt 28:19] (see Trinitarian formula). It has been claimed that writings of Eusebius show the mention of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to have displaced a request by Jesus that his disciples baptize people in his name.[31] However, all extant manuscripts of the Gospel of Matthew unanimously contain the trinitarian baptismal formula without variation at 28:19.[32]
    “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with all of you.”[2 Cor. 13:14]

    All from Wikipedia.

  5. mainly what bloggingbaldguy is saying is a substantial quantity of bovine excrement

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